by kev on March 16, 2007
If the odds of Carrot Top winning an Academy Award for acting are better than the odds of an apparent scam not being a scam, it’s a scam.
- The Carrot Top Rule (From my untitled, unwritten book, “How to Make Stupid Work for You”)
I had heard of Craigslist before, but until this week I had never visited it. As a frugal, money-conscience, bargain-hunting, Internet-surfing, former computer teacher with a Master’s Degree in Computers, my belated arrival to the World of Craig is embarrassing.
To those unfamiliar with Craigslist, it is a network of online urban communities featuring free classified advertisements for jobs, goods and services, personal ads, and more. Looking for a free cat? Go to your State and choose the site (city) nearest you, and click the “free” category. If you live in Milledgeville, GA, you’d find an individual about to leave the country who has two 2-year-old cats to give away. If you have an itch that only the awful movie “Coyote Ugly” can scratch, an individual in Kathleen, GA has it for only $2 in the cds/dvd/vhs category.
“Is Craiglist paying you to talk good about them?”, you might be asking. I wish, but no. No, the primary purpose of this post is to warn all of you of the potential SCAMS at Craiglist. Allow me to present two hypothetical (and by “hypothetical” I mean completely, 100% real) examples:
Scenario: Lauren is in the market for an automobile. We’re looking for something south of $6,000 with less than 90k miles (the lower the better). At Craigslist, I found three interesting vehicles in our area. Here are two of them…
1999 Toyota Camry photo
Price: $3,000Ad: his one owner 1999 Toyota Camry XLE V6 is the car for you. This Camry has been kept in exceptionally good condition. It only has 87k miles and has plenty more to go; it’s a Toyota!
A little bit too “car salesman” of a pitch for my taste, but nothing out of the ordinary. Good mileage, great price, and the car looks like it’s in very good condition. Now let’s look at the second car…
2000 Volkdswagen Golf photo
Price: $2,900Ad: Sunroof Airbags Anti-Lock Brakes Air Conditioning Power Windows Power Locks Cruise Control Power Steering Power Mirrors Security System Keyless Entry Anti-Lock Brakes
The lack of punctuation makes my head hurt. Plus, no mileage is listed for the car (usually not a good sign). Still, the picture looks nice and it has numerous features. At the very least, there is nothing here that makes me think a scam is at hand.
Okay, based on the photos and the price tags, I email each seller requesting additional information. It took two days, but both emailed me back. Here is the first response, from the seller of the 1999 Toyota Camry:
Hello and please forgive my delay,
The Toyota Camry XLE (1999) is in perfect working condition. My experienced tech car (kev edit: I assume he meant “tech guy”) has fully checked out this car and gives it a special high rating has a CLEAR and CLEAN TITLE a great history and mechanically without any problems ever safety check and pre-delivery inspection along with a fresh servicing before I ship or deliver the vehicle.This vehicle shifts out great and is remarkably quiet. This vehicle engine runs very, very smooth.
I hope you are serious in your intention for buying, don’t take it personally, but I had many problems with fake buyers in the past. So if you decide on buying the car, I want the deal closed only through eBay’s Safe Purchase program. You will make the payment to eBay and they will hold the money until you receive the car. ONLY AFTER you receive the car and you inspect it, eBay will release the payment to me, in this way we are both protected. I signed up for US military forces and I was sent here with my department for peace maintenance. I am located in Helsinki, Finland. 3 months ago, my wife moved here, with me and brought the car with her, but now we have to sell it back in the United States, because we can’t drive it here because we can’t register it here; it has US specs and everything, and registering it here in Europe will take for ever. My final price on it is US 3,000 $. If you will take it for this price, I am willing to handle the shipping. It will be shipped from here by plane with US Air Military Cargo so it will not cost me anything. You will get it to the nearest airport in your area and then it will be trucked forward to your place. Please get back to me asap if you decide to buy, and include in your email your full name and address where you want it shipped so I can start the deal with eBay. You will receive all the transaction payment and shipping details from them.
Cheers,
xxxxx xxxx
I bolded the points I thought were important.
Where to start…
This was a very detailed (and long) email response. The seller’s (and the car’s) currently being overseas is a bummer. I want to be able to physically test drive the vehicle before getting the ball rolling, so to speak. Still, the seller’s desire to use eBay’s Purchase Program seemed to me confirmation he was legit. He’s not the seller for me, but he seemed legit.
A short time later, I received an email from the seller of the 2000 Volkswagen. See if you can pick out the point where I became suspicious…
Hello and sorry for my delay,
I’m Sgt. Robert Caldwell. Volkswagen Golf is in perfect working condition.This vehicle engine runs very, very smooth. No electrical problems on this beauty.This detailed vehicle makes the exterior look like it just came off the assembly line.The car has only 14,630 original miles.
So if you decide on buying the car, I want the deal closed only through eBay’s Safe Purchase program. You will make the payment to eBay and they will hold the money until you receive the car. ONLY AFTER you receive the car and you inspect it, eBay will release the payment to me, in this way we are both protected. I signed up for US military forces and I was sent here with my department for peace maintenance. I am located in Helsinki, Finland. 1 months ago, my wife moved here, with me and brought the car with her, but now we have to sell it back in the United States, because we can’t drive it here because we can’t register it here; it has US specs and everything, and registering it here in Europe will take for ever. My final price on it is US 2,900 $. If you will take it for this price, I am willing to handle the shipping. It will be shipped from here by plane with US Air Military Cargo so it will not cost me anything. You will get it to the nearest airport in your area and then it will be trucked forward to your place. Please get back to me asap if you decide to buy, and include in your e-mail your full name and address where you want it shipped so I can start the deal with eBay. You will receive all the transaction payment and shipping details from them.
Cheers,
xxxxxx and xxxxxx xxxxxxxx
What do you suppose are the odds that I have emailed two different individuals, both of whom are selling cars to Middle Georgia at Craiglist, and both of whom are stationed in Helsinki, Finland??
I am invoking my Carrot Top Rule. If the odds of Carrot Top winning an Academy Award for acting are better than the odds of an apparent scam not being a scam, you should pass. (The Carrot Top Rule also applies to numerous other situations including, but not limited to: gambling money on an underdog, and eating shrimp bought out of a pickup truck)
Thanks again, Carrot Top.

















March 16th, 2007 at 9:50 pm:
Oh my gosh! Were the names of the sellers completely different? That is truly bizzare. You should really look into reporting this!
March 17th, 2007 at 1:59 pm:
I wonder if that guy really does have a ‘tech car’. That’s be awesome. It could be like KITT from Knight Rider.
Forget the Camry. I’d ask him if he would be willing to sell his tech car. Then you can train it to call you Michael Knight and you can pretend you’re David Hasselhoff.
Ok nix that last part.
March 20th, 2007 at 4:43 pm:
Are you sure it’s a scam? I mean, there must be a lot of troops needed for peace maintenance in Helsinki. Troubled times up there, you know. Ha ha!
March 28th, 2007 at 7:03 pm:
So, because there were no comments, you figured everyone was in a coma and there would be no one to read part 3 anyway. Well, I was reading : ) and guess what? I’m not in a coma. No need to delete hours worth of typing : )